Renderers

[colintheys]

I first used RHino with Realsoft 3D. THe advantage is that Realsoft natively renders nurbs and as such handles them very very well. The disadvantage is that the import is difficult and requires additional plusins. :/

Now i"m using XSI, which is awesome. However, XSI makes using polygons much more efficient, so I find myself using RHino models less and less with it. It's also quite exepnsive to use just as a render engine.

Just my experience.

[Azeiku]

I currently am using POV-Ray. I like the flexibility that POV-Ray gives me. I'm a coder by profession so POV-Ray works great for me! It does what I want when I want it. I haven't used much else though other than Flamingo.

-Azeiku

[UVDan]

Hi everybody, I am UVDan from the Renderosity Rhino and Bryce and UV Mapper forums. I absolutely love Bryce!!! LET THE FLAMES BEGIN! LOL 8^) Rhino and UV Mapper and Bryce are a powerful combination. I realize fully though that Rhino and UV Mapper and Cinema 4d would be an even more powerful combination. Hopefully some day when I am rich and famous I will have a more powerfull renderer. I also have Penguin, Treefrog, Rhinoman, oh and Flamingo.

[furo]

i'm not using any render plugin for rhino,i'm prefering the way of exporting/importing files.. but with incoming rhino4 version (and included Brazil) i'll be thinking about it.. it should be great to use some serious renderer inside rhino e.g. brazil or (now in final phase) maxwell..

[tilite]

well most of the time i just use the generic render engine in rhino... but for a final image i try to use max... alot more fiddling around so it kinda depends on the quality of the image i want and how much time i want to put into materials and lighting.

my importing style has been tested and im proved in the "realistic edges in rhino (was 3ds max)" here is our very own rhino forum;) still excited

[Sabbathian]

First I used integrated renderer, but that was at the very beggining, then I played a bit with BMRT, and finaly got to Lightwave that gave me very nice results, especialy with FPrime.

[kiwi8]

When i was in school I laughed at the students rendering arch and industrial design objects in Rhinos generic render. It sooooooooooo slow for complex objects/glass, some looked decent but I picked up C4d and dam its on another level.

[Radiant]

Im using Flamingo many times, but when version 4 will be finished, I'll render by Brazil :P Cant wait until final will be released :)

[OamadeusO]

Just checked out the maxwell renders on the net. Looks a bit tasty:thumbsup:

Anyone know when Rhino4 will be out? I cant go on practasing on the demo forever but if I get my manager to buy rhino and the a few months later say I want an upgrade the answer will be no. They've got no concept improving software tools.

[DeadbutDreaming]

i am using Flamingo for rhinoceros renders.i am abit lazy for importing an exporting. iwas using bryce before. both of render programs are not that powerfull. but it is eneough for me. you can see some renders in my web space.my web (http://www.geocities.com/togay_yuvanc/index1.html)

[Radiant]

OamadeusO: for Rhino 4 we have to wait some time, anyone dont know when will be final.. ;)

and about maxwell: I tried alpha for Rhino - its very difficult for set and renders aren't so good for now as in MAX etc. And rendering is slow.. But I think final version of maxwell will be strong and good renderer ;)

[EighthDecay]

Well I use 3dstudio Max 7 with Brazil R/S

and just started playing with the WIP Brazil 2.0 for Rhino.

[sabaman]

i use max 5 a nd brazil, 1,...

[furo]

yo yo sabaman, i'm your biggest fan.. your works are so inspirative.. so i can thank you this way;) .. thanx a lot ( i'm just excited to see you here.. i have to tell you, ya know ) .. ;)

[sabaman]

haha furo, you funny man, but ehm....well thanks,

are you ever gon finish that hummer of yours?....

[andrewjohn81]

Maxwell will doesn't claim to be fast, nor will it be fast in the final version. it's fast for what it does, but it is very slow. It's good for architecture, but little else.

[furo]

sabaman,i'm serious man.. when i started,your site was really huge inspiration to me.. btw hummer is in final phase, Brian Ellebracht is working on rendering right now, check some updates on my site... www.furo.sk (http://www.furo.sk) (hummer section, on the bottom) .. i think, about summer i ( or we) bring some serious piece of final render;) ..

[andrewjohn81]

were you planning on doing exploded views of the Hummer? I was trying to figure out why you had a bunch of holes that you don't see in the rendering. Holes dramatically increase render time if they are actual geometry.

[Tugmaster]

I use Cinema 4D to render my Rhino scenes. Can't say enough good things about it and when the Rhino import plug comes out ( hopefully soon ) they will be the perfect couple.

[elagman]

Cinema 4d all the way! I export as .obj for now to get there. Like Tugmaster says there is a plugin comming out soon that will allow direct export of a Rhino 3dm file into Cinema. I can't wait. I loathe importing meshes over and over.

I am also testing the Maxwell Alpha which goes beta in a few weeks. I find it the easist render to set up of any I have ever used. Not sure who said earlier it was hard to set up. It is slow, but gives very realistic results if you can wait. It will be the fine china of my rendering arsenal. I will only bring it out for the special projects.

When Brazil gets finalized I will probably give that a go also. So many choices so little time.

[furo]

i just like that car and the main goal was to model it as much detailed.. that's the reason.. we're planning renders with doors and hood opened.. etc.. studio shots, environment compostition, night shot.... it'll take a long time.. but,when it'll be finished,i hope it'll be successful..

[Teyon]

When I render Rhino models I use either Flamingo or the standard scanline renderer that came with Rhino. I own version 2, so I'm a bit behind the times. I hear tell that version 4 may be out as soon as fall of this year but that's a rumor. Looking at what new features it has, I may be tempted to hop back on the Rhino wagon but if I get XSI like I plan too, I may not...

[erlik]

Bryce or Cinema. But since I have only the core version of Cinema, without caustics, it's usually Bryce. :D

Or Penguin.

[Azeiku]

Anyone use VRay? I really like the rends I see coming out of that. I'm always impressed. Does Rhino have something similar to this? I don't have MAX or VRay... obviously. ;-)

[erlik]

Rhino will soon (I hope!) have Brazil as a plugin. It's in alpha.

[Azeiku]

So this Brazil.. is it like VRay? Sorry about my lack of knowledge about this stuff.. I'm a newb.

-Azeiku

[erlik]

You can read it on the Splutterfish (http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/sf_gen_page.php3?printer=1&page=brazil) pages. Take a look at the galleries.

[Azeiku]

Huh, so I won't beable to use either Brazil or VRay.. I don't have MAX. :-( Life sucks. Then you die.. hehe..

Azeiku

[tryhard]

Hi Azeiku,

you don´t need Max. Brazil 2.0 will be a Plugin for Rhino. So all you need is Rhino and Brazil 2.0 when it´s finalized!

tryhard

[Son_of_Tarzan]

Blender, because you just can't get a better program at this price.(well, let me know if you can)

[7Stones]

I've used Flamingo and was fairly happy with the results but not enough to keep using it. I've also used Bryce when it fit the job at hand. Bryce can yeild excellent results, but getting there can sometimes be a pain. It is nice to see DAZ3D continuing Bryce's development and improving its render times. I've also used Rhino's default render when all I've needed was a render to quickly communicate a concept when there was no need for the "wow" factor. Recently, I've been doing more and more rendering with Lightwave, but I'm still a little wet behind the ears to comment about that.

I'm looking foward to Rhino 4 and Brazil.

~ 7Stones (aka Alan-ASD)

[Glyptic]

I did the same thing Kiwi8 did. I got C4D for rendering my Rhino models, and discovered it does a whole lot more. What a pleasant surprise. So now I'm beginning to play with the modeling tools within C4D.
I found Flamingo to slow for my needs. 90 min. for rendering a pendant, with many interations necessary to get the lighting just right. It just wasn't practical. Neither was waiting for the first generation of Maxwell, Brazil, Toucan to arrive on the scene. All of which sound as if they will be very beneficial to a lot of people.
With C4D AR I got a lightening fast, intuitive, mature render engine. I love it.
L

[brandhoff]

Cinema 4D here as well ... as a matter of fact I started with Cinema and currently own the XL 8.2 package, but have always missed a NURBS way of modeling, so I bought a used license of Rhino 2 late last year and have been trying to dig in since.

Problem is: not enough time ... and I won't find any until later this year so it may take a few months until I can contribute something useful in here. ;)

[Tugmaster]

Awhile back 3D World Magazine and a couple of others were giving away C4D 6ce on cd when you bought that issue. You could then upgrade to ver.6 full for $99. That was one of the best giveaways ever. If anyone is looking for a renderer to use with Rhino they might contact Maxon to see if they will be doing this again in the near future. Even though I use 8.5 I was playing around this morning using 6ce and rendered this watch made in Rhino. Looks just as good as my render using 8.5.



http://xs31.xs.to/pics/05222/watchswan640.jpg

[Lord Banshee]

Awhile back 3D World Magazine and a couple of others were giving away C4D 6ce on cd when you bought that issue. You could then upgrade to ver.6 full for $99. That was one of the best giveaways ever. If anyone is looking for a renderer to use with Rhino they might contact Maxon to see if they will be doing this again in the near future. Even though I use 8.5 I was playing around this morning using 6ce and rendered this watch made in Rhino. Looks just as good as my render using 8.5.



http://xs31.xs.to/pics/05222/watchswan640.jpg

yes it was a good deal indeed.

[bleeper]

3delight its free(for the first license which is alright since I'm only using it to play around) and its faster then ye old BMRT.:)

[krembo99]

i´m using 3dmax as a texture-material-light-render program
I´m limiting rhino for the modeling part, which is it´s real force ...

I tried the Brazil beta for rhino, but the texturing and light limitations of rhino itself will leave the situation as it is now for me ...

[J-Wicz]

I would keep an eye on maxwell. Many mental ray user are all excited / worried about this renderer. It has a few groundbraking things build in (light is treated as a wave etc., see docs).
It's still beta so one can assume that they will spend the rest of their time optimizing and bugfixing the code, which will lead in a speed up.... hopefully : - )

btw: here an offical screenshot.
http://www.maxwellrender.com/gallery/plugs/rhino.html

enjoy

[Renzsu]

I'm using Rhino and Maxwell Render now, I disagree that Maxwell is only suitable for architecture stuff, I use it for product visualisation and it's great. I agree that it is slow, but consider using camera dof, multiple light bounces (not just 1 or 2, think 8 and more), glossy reflections and all that with any other renderer, and you'll hit a major speed bump. This is where maxwell shines and I'm just loving it so far :)

Really looking forward to Vray being implemented though.. It seems to be really fast and when you don't need the bells and whistles of Maxwell this could be a great alternative.

[NaNeK]

i use flamingo and penguin , i like non-photorealistic render , it seems cool ( like pencil stroke sketch) and if do not have too much time to render work you can use penguin like me ;)

[caffonne]

Maxwell, no doubt

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